Ben B asked:


Id like to open this debate on a thought I had a few days ago. Please share your thoughts. All welcome. Be nice.

The nature of the relationship prevents any true intimacy btw creator and created. God remains the distant, unfathomable almighty superior who knows but cannot be known.

So did Adam’s ideal perfect relationship with God exist before the fall? Apparently not. He was lonely so Eve(another human) was created of Adam himself for companionship. Was man’s relationship with god was not fulfilling for Adam? Surely if it was man alone with god, that would be more than satisfying for an eternity? But Adam was lonely and in need of true intimacy, which his god and creator could not or would not provide.

So does this mean then that striving for an intimate relationship with god is futile? Does the seperation of createor an created maintain the seperation between servant and master? Are we limiting our concept of God altogether?

Why Adam and not other ‘true’ men of god?: Adam’s relationship with god would have to be the closest man had with god. Before the fall man had an unbroken link to his creator. Old and New Testament charactrers as David etc. were thus limited in their relationship to god since thay existed in the fallen era or after the fall of Adam. Their relationship to God would not be as ‘perfect’ as before the fall with Adam.
Rather than question the existence of god/creator/essence/source of things, ask if a personal relationship with such an entity is a worthwhile aim or even possible.
Thanks to all for your generous and thoughtful views. I appreciate it.

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